Re: Bitstream Vera Sans render problem with GTK apps (Firefox, KDE OK)
- From: Eric Butler <eric extremeboredom net>
- To: jg freedesktop org
- Cc: Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>, Keith Packard <keithp keithp com>, fonts gnome org, jlyles bitstream com
- Subject: Re: Bitstream Vera Sans render problem with GTK apps (Firefox, KDE OK)
- Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:42:17 -0800
http://eric.extremeboredom.net/images/screenshots/vera-sans-problem2.png
A side note, chaning the hinting setting in the "Font Rendering
Details" dialog does not have any effect on how fonts are rendered.
- Eric
On 11/30/05, Jim Gettys <jg freedesktop org> wrote:
> I'm also running Ubuntu breezy, but don't see the problem.
>
> Exactly what size is currently chosen, Eric?
>
> I do see a few problems with some characters, in particular "r", that
> are clearly Vera's fault, at the size I use.
>
> http://www.freedesktop.org/~jg/r_problem.png
> - Jim
>
>
> On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 11:10 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 13:57 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:
> >
> > > I don't really know how FreeType kerning interacts with the bytecode
> > > hinting ... it's probably something in that area.
> >
> > hmm. If the kerning tables give absolute position information, then
> > they'll certainly be wrong as the bytecode hinter cannot really fix
> > them. If they give relative values, then it could be that the
> > positioning is done with the "wrong" width.
> >
> > As Owen suggested, it would be a lot easier for someone with that
> > particular software stack to figure out where the bad values are coming
> > from. I use a cairo-based pango on my desktop with the bytecode
> > interpreter in FreeType and don't experience these issues.
> >
> > -keith
> >
>
>
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